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Post by wallysgirl on Oct 26, 2009 3:15:02 GMT -5
Well, I noticed that my karma points decreased...which is kind of a shocker... i can't really understand why... I mean, i can only think it's b/c some people don't like me. But morally i think that if you don't like someone to visibly put them down by reducing karma points for no reason is a bit spiteful. I thought Karma Points were supposed to like reward people who followed rules on the forum and were an act of discipline for those who did not, but I guess I was wrong... Still, There may be people who don't like me, but there's ten times more who love me and I love myself. Plus God loves me too And that's all that matters. So I'm not going to let it bother me at all. I do have friends here that I adore and they're mega awesome! ^^ Outside the forum i have people who really matter to me and my life and they're all i need to be happy. A karma point is just a number and no matter how many times you click it, clicks from 1 person do not amount to the love and comfort and support of family and friends who surround you every day. And that's what keeps me going. Plus there are people on here who i have fun talking to a lot and who are very nice to me, so I already know how lucky i am to have these friends and what they think of me as well. No Karma point could amount to the adoration i feel from these guys. ^^ They don't have to click "exalt" for me to know that they care about me. I read and feel it in every PM or note they've every sent me with smiley faces and messages of best wishes. Not to mention my friends on DA as well (they may not be on the forum). My last point is this: Even if i don't like people, i never wish anything bad on them. That's not just, right, fair, or part of me or my belief. People who reduce karma points, i think, act on the dislike they feel for people, and i think its a shame that they feel it HAS to be shown and action HAS to be taken by even clicking that little "smite" button in the first place. I would just like to ask why whoever dislikes me felt they had to hide behind karma points to make their point. So have I noticed the reduction in my Karma points? Yes Did it catch my attention? Yes Am I upset by it? Not at all Why am I responding then? Because, i want too. And I also want to let the people who are my closet friends on here know that I value their friendship and their opinion of me more than any karma point. Besides, a KP doesn't accurately measure your karma anyone because one person can click it a million times, but that's still just the dislike of that ONE person.... Whatever the reason, I've gone down from 7-4...*shrugs* i don't care much. Right now, College life is fun and i'm going to enjoy what time on the forum i have left with my friends. Soon, my time here will be seriously reduced, to the point that i may not be on here after next summer. So whatever happens from here on out on this forum i'm just going to have fun. That's what it's all about. But I will always remember my true friends on here that have supported me and who believe in me. Their karma matches over a buhmillion, and that's what counts. ^u^ -Rika
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Post by prettywitchiusaka on Oct 26, 2009 7:14:43 GMT -5
Good for you Rika! And if it helps, I defenitly like you.
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Post by RohaHat on Oct 26, 2009 9:44:37 GMT -5
...What.
You wasted like ten minutes of your life to rant about how your karma has gone down? That actually is a reeeeally bad way to show that you don't care. And I believe that you don't care, so don't get me wrong, but a novel on how you don't care doesn't really help your point.
Oh well. If it makes you feel any better, I was the one that lowered it in the first place. I don't hate you, I've just felt rather ... yeah, spiteful would be the correct word. It's been a year since an argument we had and I still feel alienated on the forum, just because you, Rika, are the "cool" crowd, and I'm not, so everyone tends to follow you. We had this one, maybe two, arguments because me and Yuki were displeased with the events of a roleplay, or more than one roleplay, and we wanted to bring it to your attention. And then you just basically proved us wrong. I loved those chipmunk RPs, but some of them just make me gag when I read certain posts, looking back now. And we had a valid argument! And the fact that twelve months later I still feel out of the circle is appalling.
Now I know that not everyone dislikes me. People have told me they don’t dislike me. But I don’t know they’re not lying. And Rika, you and Renee especially, I feel completely ignored by you sometimes. And I also feel Yuki has been ignored worse than me. It’s not fair! But maybe, let’s say for the moment that I’m wrong, and you guys don’t hate me and aren’t ignoring me and I’m just paranoid. Then, I’d apologise. But there is nothing to prove me wrong. And it’s stupid that one argument caused this.
I can’t even remember what the argument was originally about, I think there was more than one. But it never got sorted. It ended with you being in the right, me and Yuki being in the wrong (but if we didn’t think we were in the right, why would we start a discussion about it? We were p-ssed off about the way thinks were playing out! Because it just wasn’t any fun for us anymore!)
But forget the argument. Go on. Erase it from your brain. It was twelve months ago. Go ahead and prove that you don’t still dislike us for that. Because I came very close to deleting my account a second time recently. I’m not very good at roleplaying the way we do it on this forum, I admit it. I don’t like roleplaying with other people’s characters because I’m worried I’m going to do them wrong or something, I’m only really comfortable with mine and Yuki’s. So I don’t post much because I haven’t got much to add. But if I don’t post, my characters get forgotten about, and that’s my fault.
TL;DR: Basically, I’ve been spiteful recently and I remembered the karma feature and decided to lower yours, because I could.[/i]
If you didn’t have a reason to think I’m immature before, you do now. But don’t go thinking that this DOES make you the more mature one. This was a one time thing. If you really do still dislike me, what does that say about you? I’m not really mad about what happened in those chipmunk RPs. I was at the time, very much so, but now I just want to start afresh, and I feel like you’re not letting me.
I apologise if my post doesn’t make much sense, I’m just typing my thoughts as I think them, but I hope you can decipher something out of them and understand why I’m acting like an eight year old. And hey, at least I came forward about lowering your karma, that’s got to show for something.
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Post by wallysgirl on Oct 26, 2009 16:21:26 GMT -5
I'm sorry you feel that way Roz...
You guys made it clear you don't like the way I RP so what do you want me to do? You can do RP's without me messing up your plot and have all the fun you guys want. Why are you worried about what I think or what I do anyway when you don't agree with me, which is fine but it shouldn't make you upset.
still, I don't see how decreasing KP affects or helps anything.
But whatever. You guys do what you want.
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Post by RohaHat on Oct 26, 2009 16:52:49 GMT -5
Decreasing karma doesn't do sh*t, I agree. But hey, it amuses my lesser mind.
I worry about what you do because everyone likes you because you're so likable. I'm not that lucky. You're mature and have great ideas and stuff, I'm usually the one tagging onto the good ideas. And since you're in a great deal of the RP's, I'm not going to just avoid an RP I like because you're in it.
In case you didn't notice, and I don't think you did, Yuki started a new chipmunk RP. She made that RP in the hopes that us three could RP together again, but that clearly didn't work. I don't mind us not talking and not RPing, this forum is big enough for everyone, I just don't like that I feel like I have to hide in my own little corner on here and just watch everyone else do what they want because they can.
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Post by wallysgirl on Oct 26, 2009 17:18:43 GMT -5
Well, anyway you've made it clear that you don't like the way i roleplay and that you don't like me. The feeling is mutual. That said, I don't think we're ever going to agree on anything or that this is going anywhere.
We should just leave it at that.
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Post by RohaHat on Oct 26, 2009 17:37:37 GMT -5
I never said I didn't like you. If we leave it at this, then the problem remains unchanged. I'm still trapped in my little dark corner. But if you're fine with that, then okay. That's fine with me too. There are other places on the internet where I'm not just watching from a corner.
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Post by mitter *712* on Oct 27, 2009 17:25:42 GMT -5
*getting "involved" even though it doesn't help* Didn't we have a suggestion on this forum once that said we should remove the karma points or something?? Because there was some problems similar to what's going on in this discussion/argument/whatever you wanna call it?? Because I kind'a remembered some one talking about removing karma points but it never really got done, and seeing as I'm neither mod nor admin I wouldn't know if you could actually remove karma points?? I know it probably wouldn't solve this "problem" but I remember when I was new it kinda' made me depressed to have a karma that read "0" and I was in seventh heaven when I got my first karma point... Honestly I feel it can't be right for karma points to mean this much, it kind'a makes me sad actually... I even tend to feel bad for all the newbies who hasn't gotten any carma points yet (even though some of them have moved up one "state"/gotten one extra star) So if karma points can be removed wouldn't it be easier to just remove them??
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Post by RohaHat on Oct 28, 2009 5:28:50 GMT -5
I don't think they really need removing. This problem has been resolved, this thread can be locked and left to die. Do we really need to remove the points over one incident? Plenty of other forums deal with the karma points system just fine.
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Post by mitter *712* on Oct 28, 2009 9:13:53 GMT -5
Fair enough xP Just telling my thoughts (though they might be irrelevant) ^^'
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Post by ChyukiPastukiSuzuki on Oct 28, 2009 17:31:24 GMT -5
Sorry to refuel the argument, but I feel that I should say something too. I've also lowered your Karma points, due to things you have done that have annoyed me. Karma Points are used when you either like or dislike how someone acts, and you did things that I wasn't particularly fond of.
I know you "don't care" about your karma being lowered, but if that were really the case, you wouldn't have posted this thread. It wasn't necessary for you to tell us about how many friends you have, in order to "prove use wrong" or whatever. Like Roz, said, the argument was almost a year ago, and you've refused to accept our olive branch.
In the end, I honestly see this thread as immature and a cry for attention, for people to tell you that they love you and whatnot.
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Post by wallysgirl on Oct 28, 2009 18:32:40 GMT -5
An "Olive Brance of Peace" starts with an apology from someone who realizes they were wrong and wants to apologize.
No one did that. So no the air hasn't been cleared. A no things can't start "anew" like nothing happened.
Just leave it alone, leave me alone, don't talk to me anymore, and I'm not talking to you anymore. The feeling's here are mutual, so stop bothering me.
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and yes, i don't need KP to know I'm loved b/c i have enough love in real life to outmeasure any KP on a forum.
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Post by RohaHat on Oct 28, 2009 18:39:35 GMT -5
I give up.
You're the one not cooperating here. I'm not going to avoid a roleplay, or a board, or a whole forum, just because you're in it. You're not worth my time.
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Post by ChyukiPastukiSuzuki on Oct 28, 2009 18:39:47 GMT -5
Uh, you brought it up. I just felt it needed my input.
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Post by Violette on Oct 28, 2009 21:54:12 GMT -5
Dudes...
I don't know you, guys, very much, and I really didn't know you exist before this forum, so I can tell you my POV and I won't defend anyone.
I'm also neutral about Karma; I've never touched it before.
So, Rika, you want to delete the KP because they're annoying you; so what? Do you really care? Dude, this is a forum to (mainly) talk about 3/4, to unite the Panda Warriors around the world. And i think, you joined here in first place because you like the couple. Not because you had a lot of friends, and not because you wanted to exalt your KP. Because you like 3/4.
Why you, guys, actually care about Karma? It is just a number. And even if it is there, it is not right, and you know it. You know what you do, if it is wrong or right is up to you, it depends on your point of view.
And it is STILL there because you, members of the forum, wanted so bad to have it. I wanted to erase it since the first day I created the forum, but you wanted.
I wasn't so sure about keeping it, and I thought you wouldn't get involved in such a problem (^).
And RohaHat, Chyuki; keep your personal problems personal. Please. Really dudes. It ain't cool reading such a thing.
What will I do? I'll make a poll.
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